In the current climate of political division and a beleaguered Democratic Party, California Governor Gavin Newsom has taken an unexpected route by launching a podcast featuring conversations with well-known conservatives. By engaging with figures from the opposing side, Newsom aims to showcase his willingness to reach across the aisle and address the rising influence of the MAGA movement.
Newsom, often regarded as a progressive leader, surprised many Democrats by voicing agreement with his conservative guests on some contentious issues. In a notable episode, he labeled the idea of abolishing police departments as “lunacy” and did not counter when Steve Bannon, a key figure in former President Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign, falsely claimed that Trump won the 2020 presidential election. These interactions offer a new perspective on a governor who is seen as a potential contender for the 2028 presidential election.
Not long ago, Newsom was a key supporter of President Joe Biden’s campaign, using his platform to criticize Democrats for not being proactive enough in defending essential rights such as abortion and same-sex marriage. However, with his latest move into podcasting, Newsom expressed a desire to understand how Republicans mobilized so effectively in recent elections, including securing majorities in both the House and Senate after the 2020 election.
“I think exploring new and original ways to converse is crucial for Democrats,” Newsom communicated in an email to his supporters, emphasizing the need for dialogue that transcends traditional boundaries.
However, Newsom has faced backlash from within his own party due to the selection of his podcast guests. Although he plans to diversify his lineup with guests like Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, the decision to spotlight conservative figures such as Bannon, radio host Michael Savage, and Turning Point USA’s Charlie Kirk has stirred controversy. Critics argue that Newsom might be compromising Democratic principles in pursuit of broader political ambitions. Aimee Allison from She the People expressed disappointment, suggesting that Newsom is undermining California’s core values during this critical time.
Concerns also arose from members of California’s LGBTQ+ legislative caucus regarding Newsom’s statements on transgender athletes, indicating a disconnect between his stances and those of the progressive wing of his party. Some argue that giving figures like Bannon a platform could inadvertently legitimize misinformation, weakening Democratic positions.
Despite this criticism, Newsom’s outreach into podcasting is viewed by some as a smart strategy to appeal to audiences who might not engage with traditional media. Democratic consultant Bill Burton, who worked under former President Obama, noted that while Newsom’s approach might alienate some in the short term, it represents necessary, bold moves by Democrats to reach broader electorates.
The governor remains a pragmatic leader who does not strictly adhere to a single ideological path. His strategy might be aimed at countering attacks similar to those leveled at Vice President Kamala Harris or aligning with public opinion, which according to polls, suggests a growing national divide over rights issues.
Throughout his podcast discussions, Newsom maintains an amicable tone, occasionally pushing back against his guests. This contrasts with his previously aggressive stance on national issues, where he fiercely defended California’s progressive policies. Political analyst Thad Kousser suggests that in an era marked by strict partisan divides, Newsom’s efforts to foster dialogue across ideological lines may seem either bold or overly risky, as he seeks to position himself in a more centrist national role.
